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After my previous blog posting asking for the old and familiar "Classic" start menu, it seems as if my VPC of Windows 7 has a sense of humor and obliged me with an old familiar BSOD...my first Windows 7 BSOD!

For all the changes to things over the years with the Windows systems, this is one old standby that hasn't changed a bit.

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I ended up going into Windows normally but this process was repeatable and the next time I went to shut down my Windows 7 VPC I got the same BSOD. So it looks as if I have found a bug...though I'm not sure what it is.

Here's Windows 7 running in Safe Mode:

SafeMode

Here's a detail screen of the Event Log entries that correspond to the BSOD.

CriticalError

And finally here's a detail view of the Bugcheck details for this error. FWIW I sent those details to Microsoft's error checking online repository and I've saved the memory dump, but I'm not that well versed in going over memory dumps.

BugDetail

The error only cropped up since I installed some software since last night and only happens when I go to shut down the VPC. It stays for a LOOOOONG time on the "Shutting down" screen then BSODs.  It's happening over and over again (3x so far) so I'll just start uninstalling software on the Windows 7 VPC until it shuts down cleanly again. FWIW here's the software I've installed on it so far:

JKDefrag, Windows XP Virtual CD ROM Control Panel and Virtual Clone Drive.

Posted on Friday, January 9, 2009 4:06 PM Windows 7 | Back to top


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I'm using windows 7 on my notebook since build 6801 AND I HAVE NEVER SEEN A BSOD. IS IT REAL? o.0
Left by Cobalto on Jan 09, 2009 11:13 AM

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Yes it's real. I'm working to figure out what's caused it, but I assure you I'm not making the screenshot to poke fun at Windows. I like Windows 7 so far.
Left by Lou on Jan 09, 2009 11:29 AM

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I believe there are still issues running Windows 7 on Virtual PC. No way to install it on the metal?
Left by Glen on Jan 09, 2009 11:35 AM

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Glen - I'm planning to install it on the metal later tonight or this weekend. I'll be sure to test things out again on real box.
Left by Lou on Jan 09, 2009 11:45 AM

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I've heard others have had problems with Win7 using VPC extensions. Since they change the virtual drivers, I can understand the blue screen because bluescreens are often caused by driver incompatibilities.
Left by Jim Wooley on Jan 09, 2009 1:26 PM

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The BSOD for 7 is real. I just tried to install it and well, suprise suprise. BSOD. I was trying to upgrade rather than start fresh. I've saved my previous stuff on another HDD just in case. Maybe she's not upgradable yet, eh?
Left by Dwayne on Jan 10, 2009 3:09 AM

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I got 3 BSOD's so far in the first hour or so. The error reads: DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL. I had to catch it with my camera because it flashed by too quickly (less than one second) before restarting. TDX.SYS was mentioned, and I suspect this has to do with the software I installed to access an external hard drive plugged into my router via USB. I have a Belkin N+ Wireless Router (connected to my computer via a hardwire) and their supporting software is called Storage Manager. I haven't gotten a BSOD for about 15 minutes so far since uninstalling the program and disconnecting the mapped network drives it created.
Left by Mike M. Lin on Jan 10, 2009 8:38 PM

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In my XP box, the only reasons I've ever gotten DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL for, was due to my RAM. 1st time there was some kind of dirt between the DIMM contacts on my RAM chip and the ones in the Mobo, second time (with a dif. computer) was because I had been overclocking the RAM and it became unstable, so that Windows crashed during boot.
Left by Rui Pinheiro on Jan 11, 2009 3:43 PM

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I thinks its Virtual Clone drive (in fact, it seems that nearly every CD/DVD mounting program has a major compatibility problem). I had a similar issue where the computer would not be able to shut down if I had attempted to use Virtual Clone Drive or MagicDrive. Before installing MagicDrive, Windows even warned me about the drivers MagicDrive tried to install, and it wouldn't even let me install Daemon Tools (which I tried as an alternative for mounting images).

When I managed to get MagicDrive installed, I started getting BSODs when resuming from sleep.

As for not shutting down, Windows Vista and Windows 7 are supposed to force terminate processes that stop the shutdown process, but, of course, they built in certain exceptions (which only programs that really really need it could use, such as Media Center. Unfortunately, some sloppy programmers have on occasion, taken advantage of that to make sure their programs aren't terminated by the shutdown, which became a problem for Vista).

To fight that, Win 7 has a new function allowing you to check what process might be appealing to that exception to stop the shutdown. If you open command prompt as Administrator, and type "powercfg.exe/requests", it will explicitly tell you what annoying process is intentionally interfering with shutdown.

When I installed mounting software like MagicDrive, I discovered those programs were listed as exceptions to stop the Windows shutdown process until they were ready. They were listed as "Legacy Kernel Drivers."
Just a case of bad/selfish programming on the part of MagicDrive, I suppose.

I did a system restore to completely eliminate those programs and have since vowed not to use them until compatible software is released.
Left by Tuan on Jan 11, 2009 7:44 PM

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I can confirm. My Windows 7 (clear install) new
hardware BSODed after installation of Virtual
Clone Drive
Left by Ian on Jan 12, 2009 9:29 PM

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tdx.sys = bad network driver
Left by BarneyGoogle on Jan 14, 2009 7:27 PM

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Unfortunately after installing windows 7 on bare metal I can only confirm the issue. After long, long hours of troubleshooting using well known method "try & error" I've found that video driver was the black sheep of the WHQL family. Rolling back to standard VGA driver solved the issue at unacceptable price of loosing a lot of video performance.

Some things do really never change!
Left by Nimda on Jan 16, 2009 6:03 PM

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I tried installing Microsoft virtual Machine addition but i got BSOD after it
Left by anoymous on Jan 18, 2009 12:49 AM

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I have stopped connecting to my DLINK NAS drive and straight away not one BSOD after it crashing repeatedly with same errors as above "tdx.sys = bad network driver"
So annoying !! Having said that I'm really liking windows 7!!
Left by Steve on Jan 23, 2009 7:48 PM

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I also always get a BSOD when my QNAP NAS is connected to the PC... Does anyone know a solution for that annoying problem?
Left by Johannes on Jan 26, 2009 4:48 AM

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I get a BSOD 5 minutes after logging in when I have a mapped drive to my Buffalo NAS. No, mapped drive, no BSOD and everything run excellent.

I have been running Windows 7 in a dual boot for a couple weeks, with Free AVG and a couple mapped drived without any issues.

3 days ago, after an AVG update, AVG asked for a reboot and after that, when i map a drive, BOOM, BSOD every 5 minutes.

BSOD: tdx.sys DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
Left by Eric on Feb 03, 2009 6:31 PM

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Same here, after mapping buffalo nas, BSOD every 5min
Left by ajk on Feb 09, 2009 2:25 PM

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Same here! Lacie network space NAS, gives BSOD (TDX.sys / driver_IRQL_...).

Is there a solution now?
Left by Danny on Feb 16, 2009 7:18 PM

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I have also had the tdx.sys error, and although it might at first appear to be a netwirk driver issue, it is in fact related to having an external NAS mapped to the computer. As soon as I unmapped the drive, the BSODs stopped.

Left by Bobby on Feb 19, 2009 10:56 PM

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Well i have the same problem, as far as i can read on forums and other places online that it has to with the anti vir software of choice.

I have a LaCie Networkspace 1T drive and it seems to be working OK with eset antivir software but im not saying it will for long. Im currently looking for a free AV that will work (updating network drivers will help also)

regards from the cold North
Left by Karl Kristian on Feb 23, 2009 1:59 PM

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Windows 7 BSODs when using some kinds of antivirus applications, and/or mapped networkdrives. Install this update to fix the problem:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/967891

source: http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=747892
Left by Andreas on Mar 04, 2009 2:01 AM

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I've got BSOD right after VPC restarted with just installed drivers =)

http://dcsmp.narod.ru/114.JPG
Left by switcher on May 05, 2009 5:10 PM

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Come on, it's Windows. Did you really think it would work.?
Left by seahag on Jul 15, 2009 11:33 AM

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I'm getting the same error (and crash) with iTunes on a Windows XP machine, and ONLY when running iTunes.

Sounds like it's caused by something in iTunes, to me...
Left by Basara on Nov 05, 2009 12:18 AM

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okay, i'm getting the bluescreen too. . . same one. . .and I've narrowed it down to my WLAN network device or driver. When i disable the device, i don't get the blue screen. The second i enable it in device manager, it bluescreens and starts a never ending cycle of rebooting until it hits the blue screen again. Sounds like Windows 7 just doesn't like to network!
Left by Michael on Nov 06, 2009 8:32 PM

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Im starting to get the BSOD when I reboot the system the next day. Its like I have to leave my system on for it wont get the BSOD and my Windows vista did this also. Im using 64bit if that even matters.
Left by Jerry on Nov 12, 2009 12:07 PM

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Ditch the OS you BSOD staring fools
Left by stupid OS giver upper on Nov 20, 2009 2:23 AM

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got my grand mom a new computer with windows 7, after downloading magiciso, and the likes, i got bsod, started up opened fire fox and it crashed again. tried again and pressing power button didn't even turn monitor on, front panel lit up etc. now the thing does that 1/10 times with the exception of going to windows loading screen and freezing there.

I WILL NEVER get windows 7 again until they fix it
Left by Shawn on Jan 11, 2010 11:00 PM

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I started getting it right after I D/L'ing pictures from my Kodak camera using the 'EasyShare' software, appearently it doesen't like my camera/software. I have an older camera(DX4330). everytime I started to D/L the pictures *crash*, then it started to snowball from there... open ANY picture *crash*, start a new e-mail *crash* , pretty {explitive} redicilous! Make it stop, make it stop!!
Left by Sean on Mar 31, 2010 12:03 AM

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I have Windows Vista SP2 installed as my base OS. I used Virtual PC and installed Windows 7 Ultimate. After successfully installing windows 7 to my virtual harddrive, I installed the virtual machine additions. Upon reboot windows 7 bluescreens.

I noticed someone else on this forum also got the same problem with virtual machine addtions.

Is there are solution or diagnosis check for this?
Left by Hanso Gnana on Aug 15, 2010 2:34 AM

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